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    • CommentAuthorWildFire
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
     
    Hello all. I have some questions.
    1)What it is necessary for me to receive a videostream from my IS to FC-200? TopSurv v7.1 supported it? Whether it is necessary for it to have 2 wlan cards (for IS and for FC)? Or there will be enough SS Radio?

    2)What maximal limit of range at scanning in a mode "Grid Scan" - 250 or 2000m? f only 250m, how it is written in specifications why? In fact at usual measurements the EDM allows to measure distances up to 2000m!

    Thanks in advance
    • CommentAuthorpatrick
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
     
    Hi there.

    The communication for videostream is over SS radio, however version 7.1 does not support it. I believe the next version, 7.2 will have all these videostream features.

    If you can measure it with your IS, you can scan it. The Grid Scan can scan the areas you can measure. So yeah, up to 2000m.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Patrick
    • CommentAuthorWildFire
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
     
    Thanks Patrick

    And how about wlan cards? They are necessary only for communication through a wlan accesspoint? I talk about connection between IS and FC.
    • CommentAuthorpatrick
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
     
    I'm not sure if you'd gain any advantage if there were wlan between the FC and IS compared to SS radio. The radio give you a good range, and I don't know if you could get any more range with normal wlan cards.
    And the radio is sufficient when it comes to the amount of data it sends.

    I do have a wlan card on my IS tho, so that I can use my IS together with ImageMaster on my laptop. I then run them as an "ad-hoc" network. Basicly computer-computer network (no router, hub etc between).

    Patrick
    • CommentAuthorNick
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
     
    Hello WildFire

    There is a method of viewing and controlling the screen of your Field Controller using http://www.soti.net/default.asp?Cmd=Products&SubCmd=PCPro

    There is also a utility available from Topcon for viewing video feed on the Imaging Total stations (7000i) over wifi.

    Kind regards

    Nick
    • CommentAuthorpatrick
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
     
    Yeah, Soti makes it possible to view and control the screen on Field controller, but that is only through activesync right?

    And the question was regarding IS -> FC-200, and not FC-200 -> laptop. I don't think soti will solve the initial question.

    But Soti is a nice piece of software, I use it alot when I want screenshots, videos etc from my IS and field controllers. Also when I don't want to sit and tap on the fieldcontroller, but do everything from my computer instead.

    Patrick
    • CommentAuthorWildFire
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2008
     
    Thanks all for answers!
    About connection through WLan; simply I have not been assured, that throughput of a radio channel will suffice for transfer of a videostream between IS and FC. If has put only in the version TopSurv will have to wait:)

    It would be fine, if it happens as soon as possible. In fact then the system a "IS-field" controller will be more productive and effective in comparison with all existing robotized systems. Will disappear necessity for the systems similar RC-3. I think, that by means of video and TouchDrive it will be possible to restore quickly capture of the lost prism and as to carry out exact measurements in non-prism mode, at management from the field controller.

    About SOTI. I have this software too. And i use it for creation presentations, manuals and etc. Its very nice utility. Im glad to have it :)

    PS.Sorry if my english too bad. I only study in English language and I have not enough colloquial practice.
    • CommentAuthorAndy Evans
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2008 edited
     
    Hi Wildfire

    You've got the answers here now.

    Just to clarify!

    1) You need a WLan kit installed in the FC200 and a WiFi CF card on board the IS to see video at the pole. You can get the WLAN kit from your dealer and instructions how to install, or alternatively send your FC200 in to get it upgraded.

    2) Technically, you CAN scan upto 2000m depending on the reflectivity of the surface to be measured. You will need to set the IS to scan using LNP or NP/LNP to achieve this range.

    Cheers
    Andy
    • CommentAuthorNick
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2008
     
    I understand that the scan rate at long ranges >250m is significantly slower though...

    Nick
    • CommentAuthorWildFire
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2008
     
    Exactly so! In range over 250m measurements in scan mode very slow (as compared with NP only mode). Scan looks like "measure-stop-turn-measure-stop-turn..." , and measurements time bigger on larger distances.

    2 Andy Evans. Thank you Andy for answer.As I also thought, for support of videostream from IS to FC200 all 2 WLan (WiFi) modules are necessary.
    And you did not test range of action of system IS-FC through WiFi?
  1.  
    Hi Wildfire

    Yes at long range the scan rate is slower, please bear in mind that the IS is a very versatile instrument providing MANY survey options. There aren't any scanning total stations on the market that really compare with respect to achievable range and accuracy. Even in NP mode!

    Peer-to-peer we are easily getting 80m, and with a WiFi router working as a repeater a little further than that. As you identified this opens up a lot of in-field survey workflows that can be run from the controller and obviously improved search control.

    Please note the WiFi on the FC200 is internal. The IS uses a CF card.
    • CommentAuthorIanS
    • CommentTimeNov 21st 2008
     
    Hi all
    TopSURV 7.2 is now released and that allows video control on an FC-200. As andy says you need a wifi kit (best let your delaer do this as it needs opening up) and the wifi card you ghave with your IS. Realistic range with no wifi network is 80-100m. This is expanded by having a router in the area wich then gives use within the range of the router. I tested one upto 300m then ran out of field.
    The wifi option has been used over a radio link because of the speed needed to refresh the video frames. If you use radio the refresh rate is more then 1 second per frame. Not easy to work with for surveying. Wifi achieves about 15 fps which is OK for use.

    The Scanning has two modes as you mention, upto 250 m the rapid scanning can be used where measurement rate is upto 20 pps. However beyond that it is not posible to do continues measurement with typical pulse technology so the stop measure is used.
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